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  Then Leave.com

  by SheilaM in

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  i love this website

  http://www.asmincorp.com/thenleave/thenleave_001.htm

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  I looked at the site, in fact I stole one of their graphics for my desk top, the one of the eagle head with the flag. My impression of the site owners attitude was this.

  It is understood that political tensions are running high and that the military action is not agreed upon as necessary by all. Fact is it is happening, American boys as well as those from the UK and other countries are dying for the furthering of human freedoms provided by democracy in a place where a rather vicious dictator was doing harm.

  People who do nothing but bitch and moan about the situation, and offer no other alternative than to get rid of Bush, are annoying. I mean, how long does one have to complain about a situation that is out of their control? The site owner was just, in a very sarcastic way, giving an oppurtunity, for those sick of hearing the liberals and their endless complaints, to contribute to the purchase of air fare to give these folks a taste of life where their complaints might not be allowed, where their "right" to complain, might even be considered a crime.

  Things are far from perfect in the good ole US of A, but in my opinion, there are very few countries that offer the freedoms and opportunities found in America.

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  The Fine Art of Kissing

  by Robdar in

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  i use to hate kissing.

  i was a virgin until i was 19 and married.

  i hadnt had a chance to experiment with kissing in my teenage years.

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  Now wait just a damned minute!!

  I have no recolection of any such event! I vaguely remember giving a short speech, or so they tell me, but as much as I love our district overbeer, Thunder don't play that!

  Now as far as memorable kissing,,,,, the first girl I ever kissed, walked into a wall when I was done! Oh and I can still raise goosebumps on the missus with a good lip lock!

  It ain't braggin when its true.

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  Mike Tyson, misunderstood or misanthropic ass#@!&

  by Thunder Rider in

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  i was watching one of the sports chanels the other day and saw an hour long story on mr. tyson.

  there were several segments showing different prefight interviews.

  his behavior at these gatherings was incorrigable.

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  TJ,

  I get your point, and agree to a point. Remember though, baking soda doesn't fizz if you don't add the vinegar. Its a lot easier to scoop up and dispose of the dog $#!^ on the lawn than to sepend all day swatting flies. His actions and attitude incite racist feelings and encourage the exploitation he is subject to.He is an irritant that society doens't need in a world where the media fans the flames of biggotry at every opportunity. Case in point Mr. Bryant and his alleged crime.People love dirt, I would offer that the majority who pay to see him fight are hoping to see him get his arrogant ass kicked up around his ears.

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  Mike Tyson, misunderstood or misanthropic ass#@!&

  by Thunder Rider in

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  i was watching one of the sports chanels the other day and saw an hour long story on mr. tyson.

  there were several segments showing different prefight interviews.

  his behavior at these gatherings was incorrigable.

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  JT,

  I was inferring that as time passed and with the knowledge of how we were, we might strive to be better. Gladiatorial games of the past are well enough documented to show us the depravity of our ancestors. Are we stupider in our educated, civilized state of the "now" than the Romans were so many ages ago?

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  Thunder
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  Swallowed my pride and had a good cry today

  by Lady Lee in

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  as some of you know i have been have a few health problems lately.. i went to the doctor today to pick up my application for a handicapped parking permit.

  when we talked he said he would sign it for a year.. well he signed it as "permanent disability".

  in one way this is good because if they don't figure out the problem and find a solution i won't have to keep applying for it.

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  LL,

  Wish I had something profound to say. Hang in there and you will be in our thoughts.

  Thunder & SheilaM
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  The Dark Side - Funny!

  by SpannerintheWorks in

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  Thunder Rider

  Too Funny!!

  Thanx for the laugh.

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  Thunder
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  TORONTO Beer Festival

  by RAYZORBLADE in

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  hey folks, just thought i'd let you all in on a little bit of some local toronto happenings here.

  this weekend: august 9, 10, and 11th, is toronto's annual beer festival.

  it's located on the historic fort york site (bathurst & lakeshore blvd.).

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  Ray,

  Sounds like you got your weekend planned out. Wish I was there to toss back a few with you. As it is Sheila and I will probably put a few miles on the Harley and play around the house.

  Have a great time and have one for me!

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  Thunder
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  Therapy?

  by StinkyPantz in

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  okay, i think i'm crazy; and i think i need therapy.

  well here's a rundown of my life: .

  born; molested by cousin; best friend murdered by her father; eating disorder; abusive boyfriends; betrayed by best friend of 15 years; disfellowshipped; married after 6 months of dating; disowned by family; moved cross-country where i don't know anyone (this is only a partial list of course).

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  SP,

  Dittos on all the good advice you have been getting thus far. I just wanted to add though, that you need to have supportive people close at hand when you start seeing the therapist. After my first couple sessions, my depression got worse, and I got angrier. Having a stranger bring you to the realization of the abuses you have survived is difficult to deal with. I had spent so long making excuses for the way my parents treated me and taking blame for things that were not my fault, seeing the truth of the situation fort he first time was almost too much. Fortunately I had Sheila and the kids there with me.

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  Thunder
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  Just finished reading COC whoa!

  by Thunder Rider in

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  it took me over a month of reading every night before bed, but last night i finished reading crisis of conscience.

  i was amazed by what i read.

  the extent of disregard for peoples feelings and lack of human kindness to those who had given a major part of their lives to theocratic service, made me sick.

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  I re- read some of CoC last night. The attitude that Franz was able to keep while being subjected to such underhanded actions by the GB was remarkable/ I'm ashamed to say that I can't feel as forgiving as he. He contributed more than twice as much of his life to the WTS than I had and my anger at the lies is near rage right now.

  I never accepted before that my life would some day end. I was keeping my eyes on the prize. Now I have to cram a lifetime of expolration and real living into the limited time I have left. With my family history that could be as little as 20 years.

  I appreciate everyone's thoughts and I will be reading In Search of next.

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  Thunder
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  Just finished reading COC whoa!

  by Thunder Rider in

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  it took me over a month of reading every night before bed, but last night i finished reading crisis of conscience.

  i was amazed by what i read.

  the extent of disregard for peoples feelings and lack of human kindness to those who had given a major part of their lives to theocratic service, made me sick.

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  Thunder Rider

  It took me over a month of reading every night before bed, but last night i finished reading Crisis Of Conscience. I was amazed by what I read. The extent of disregard for peoples feelings and lack of human kindness to those who had given a major part of their lives to theocratic service, made me sick. To hear of how some of them were disfellowshiped offhandedly for trivialities, in their latter stages of life, was disgusting.

  It was 1980 when I started to wonder for myself why things were not happening the way I had been taught. I was still active in the 80's but for the life of me can't remember hearing any more than whispers about what happened in Brooklyn. I was that brainwashed, wearing those biblical blinders I was. How anyone could remain in active membership with an organization that has become so calluse and cruel is beyond me. I suppose it is true that many are stuck because their family and friends are there. Those friendships though are forced, based on eronious teachings, judgemental attitudes and lies.

  As I read the book things began to make sense. I still have a few of the old books and went back to check on some of the statements that Franz made. He was right. Teachings were continuallu tweaked to make things seem to fit their time line, their agenda. Why couldn't they just admit ignorance? Why must they allow their pride and need to control cause divisions among friends and families? I always fell back on the "where else are we to go?", attitude. I figured that in the longrun the org. was the best choice out there. The basic lifestyle teachings were good. If only the leadership practiced what they preached.

  Franz said something at the end of his book that got my attention. Probably the truest statement in the book. "To believe because others believe, is to have a borrowed conviction and a borrowed faith. To be genuine, and to lead to life, these must be the product of one's own mind and one's own heart." I'm still figuring out what I believe and who I believe in. When I get there, it will be right for me, of me and for me. When I have made myself whole, for I believe there is a place for faith in me, I will be that much better a husband to Sheila, a friend to my friends and man to my world.

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  Thunder